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senator finestein's bill and president obama and joe biden's comments. >> but you can appreciate guns without appreciating magazines that shoot a hundred rounds. you're talking about legislation that clearly talks about person types of weapons, certain types of magazines. . not all guns. let's not distort what the legislation is saying. >> well, in diane finestein's bill, in the summary that i read, you know, she lists handguns that are semi-automatic, which are the majority of handguns that are sold in this country. in her proposed legislation. so we are talking about, you know, the guns that people use on a regular and everyday basis to defend their homes and families. >> well, it hasn't been introduced yet. we don't know what the final bill will say. but are you supporting on saturday, on gun appreciation day, automatic weapons and magazines that go with 30-100 rounds? is that part of appreciation day? >> i believe that right now, any ban on a semiautomatic weapon would not have, you know, changed the outcome of what happened in newtown. it would not have changed the outcome of wha
senator finestein's bill and president obama and joe biden's comments. >> but you can appreciate guns without appreciating magazines that shoot a hundred rounds. you're talking about legislation that clearly talks about person types of weapons, certain types of magazines. . not all guns. let's not distort what the legislation is saying. >> well, in diane finestein's bill, in the summary that i read, you know, she lists handguns that are semi-automatic, which are the majority of...
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about president obama that might land differently with african-americans than they do with the general public, so it is i think a question about framing, but i also think it's got to be about specificity. the gop, for instance, now talking about spending cuts. are they prepared to say the "m" word? are they prepared to talk about medicare and are they prepared to talk about social security? so in some ways they are dancing around and being vague about entitlement and spending cuts but have been really loathe to get down to specifics. >> nia, there you go. you had a name there, colin powell. maybe that's the person you'll add to the list. >> stay with us. don't go anyway, ari, nia and matt. still ahead, how will the united states react to vice president joe biden's gun safety recommendations that will be coming out we expect on tuesday. we'll pick it up there when we come back. the place for politics, msnbc. . spending the day with my niece. i don't use super poligrip for hold because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was
about president obama that might land differently with african-americans than they do with the general public, so it is i think a question about framing, but i also think it's got to be about specificity. the gop, for instance, now talking about spending cuts. are they prepared to say the "m" word? are they prepared to talk about medicare and are they prepared to talk about social security? so in some ways they are dancing around and being vague about entitlement and spending cuts but...
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>> well, you know, somebody tweeted today, i have forgotten who it was, that president obama talked today as if he just won an election. and guess what? this issue was on the table. and the american people decided no, they don't believe, we don't believe as a people that all government is useless. we expect a lot of things of government. and i actually thought that little segment you showed from frank luntz is very revealing, because republicans for years have thought that saying the word "small government" was the popular way to go. and the fact that frank luntz, their favorite language maven is telling them they shouldn't use small government anymore i think tells us a lot about the shift in public dialogue in the fact that the american people are saying we don't want this way of talking about government anymore. >> ruth conniff, speaker boehner is at the mercy of the extremists in his own party who seem willing to throw the country into chaos. do you believe, or do you think that boehner would put his leadership position at risk to prevent this? i mean, when i say leadership, we're to
>> well, you know, somebody tweeted today, i have forgotten who it was, that president obama talked today as if he just won an election. and guess what? this issue was on the table. and the american people decided no, they don't believe, we don't believe as a people that all government is useless. we expect a lot of things of government. and i actually thought that little segment you showed from frank luntz is very revealing, because republicans for years have thought that saying the word...
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in terms -- we've been talking ad naseum about skisms within the g.o.p. obama is preparing to prioritize immigration reform on his second term agenda, a move that would do as much to divide the gop as it would to score points among hispanic voters. it would threaten for engulf the gop with in a heated internal debate that would make the fiscal argument seem like child's play. do you think that's true? >> yeah. it's a debate that if one side wins could marginalize that party for generations to come because the fact is that when you see that 71% of almost 12 million voters the last elections, voted for one political party, and that group that voted 71% for one political party, is the fastest growing group in the country. already 50.5 million strong. 18 years of age equals voting age. if they think they can ignore the concerns of a large portion of this country or simply use words like am midwesty, i can't even deal with talking about it, then they'll got something coming. they may become the minority party for generations to come, and i'm not sure that any
in terms -- we've been talking ad naseum about skisms within the g.o.p. obama is preparing to prioritize immigration reform on his second term agenda, a move that would do as much to divide the gop as it would to score points among hispanic voters. it would threaten for engulf the gop with in a heated internal debate that would make the fiscal argument seem like child's play. do you think that's true? >> yeah. it's a debate that if one side wins could marginalize that party for...
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. >>> president obama warns republicans they won't get ransom for agreeing not to crash the economy. he's talking tough ahead of the next big fight with congress over the debt creating. >>> the president said vice president biden has presented had i am with a list of common sense steps to prevent gun violence. but the biggest question is how much of it the administration can actually get passed through the congress. >>> and watching last night's golden globes, wung thing was clear to me, america once again feels good about itself. we've got a new sense of optimism and the movies show it. >>> the latest attack on science by a republican member of the house science committee. what a strange name for that crowd. that's in the "sideshow" tonight. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. that can her cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy. yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, alls
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and this is something that president obama really seems to want to usher? >> the catalyst of the conversation, though, seems to be based on what we witness as a country in newtown. play your michael bloomberg was on our air earlier and talking about the fact that we can use that as an example. we have a bigger problem in this country. gentlemen, take a listen. >> as horrific as sandy hook has been and all of the other seechliseechl i seemingly episodes of mass violence, we experience that carnage or worse every single day across our country because every day of the year an average of 33 americans are murdered with guns. here's another way to think about what that means. one week from today president obama will take the oath of office for his second term. and unless we take action, during those four years some 48,000 americans will be killed with guns. >> mayor michael bloomberg speaking from baltimore, maryland, along with governor martin o'malley there as they introduce the summit on reducing gun violence in america. when we think about the numbers in just
and this is something that president obama really seems to want to usher? >> the catalyst of the conversation, though, seems to be based on what we witness as a country in newtown. play your michael bloomberg was on our air earlier and talking about the fact that we can use that as an example. we have a bigger problem in this country. gentlemen, take a listen. >> as horrific as sandy hook has been and all of the other seechliseechl i seemingly episodes of mass violence, we...
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>> i heard you talking about nullification? he's also talking about obama is not a king. well, if he's not a king, then you could nullify him. if he is a king, trying to be a king, then you can't nullify what a king is trying to do. what the previous gop name was trying to be a king. you can't have it both ways, one day say he's not leading us and the next day he's trying to be a king. what he put forward is very reasonable. he's not trying to take away everyone's guns. he's not trampling the second amendment. he's doing something very responsible that allows law-abiding, responsible gun owners to have their guns and protect themselves in their homes and create more safety for america. and he's done something that isn't worried about the political wins. he's doing what he thinks is right, what is the best policy. and i'm actually proud to see him stand up for what he thinks is the best policy and say we're not going to do the assault weapons ban. push them as far as you can. you know, the pro-gun right is lost to the democrats. so don't worry about them. we can still win
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it's what president obama was talking about when he dedicated the king memorial in 2011. >> progress was hard. progress was purchased through enduring the smack of billy clubs and the blast of fire hoses. nearly 50 years after the march on washington, our work, dr. king's work is not yet complete. >> back in dr. king's day voter suppression was enforced by fire hoses and billy clubs. today it's more subtle. but just as dangerous. rnc chairman reince priebus is arguing to change the rules in their state for how they award in presidential elections. you should this kind of plan. might have won the white house last year, not barack obama. priebus says quote, it's something a lot of states have been consistently blue that are fully controlled red ought to be looking at. priebus supports this now
it's what president obama was talking about when he dedicated the king memorial in 2011. >> progress was hard. progress was purchased through enduring the smack of billy clubs and the blast of fire hoses. nearly 50 years after the march on washington, our work, dr. king's work is not yet complete. >> back in dr. king's day voter suppression was enforced by fire hoses and billy clubs. today it's more subtle. but just as dangerous. rnc chairman reince priebus is arguing to change the...
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. >>> president obama warns republicans they won't get ransom for agreeing not to crash the economy. he's talking tough ahead of the next big fight with congress over the debt ceiling. >>> the president said vice president biden has presented him with a list of common sense steps to prevent gun violence. but the biggest question is how much of it the administration can actually get passed through the congress. >>> and watching last night's golden globes, one thing was clear to me, america once again feels good about itself. we've got a new sense of optimism, and the movies show it. >>> the latest attack on science by a republican member of the house science committee. what a strange name for that crowd. that's in the "sideshow" tonight. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. zzzquil™ sleep-aid. it's not for colds. it's not for pain. it's just for sleep. because sleep is a beautiful thing™. ♪ zzzquil™. the non-habit forming sleep-aid from the makers of nyquil®. nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking fo
. >>> president obama warns republicans they won't get ransom for agreeing not to crash the economy. he's talking tough ahead of the next big fight with congress over the debt ceiling. >>> the president said vice president biden has presented him with a list of common sense steps to prevent gun violence. but the biggest question is how much of it the administration can actually get passed through the congress. >>> and watching last night's golden globes, one thing was...
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karen, let's talk about what the president just outlined there. we know he signed several executive actions, he signed several executive actions. among them, strengthening background checks, the ability of federal agencies to share information. also, perhaps long overdue, pushing forward a nomination of todd jones to be head of the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. there's not been a director in six years. he also outlined, not a huge surprise, we've been talking about a lot of these measures in recent days, several new things he'd like congress to take action on, including universal background checks, the assault weapons ban he is going forward with, and a ban on high-capacity magazine clips, and a crackdown on gun trafficking, which has less to do, perhaps, with newtown, and more to do with the increased gun violence that we saw in intercities across the country. your thoughts on his recommendations. >> a couple of things. one, all these recommendations, i'm going to say the phrase, common sense. every single thing he said sounds very re
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>>> up next, president obama holding his last press conference of his first term. he's going to start by talking about the debt limit. but first, the white house soup of the day. it's monday. it's rainy. i would suggest they could have come up with a better rainy day soup, but tomato basil is fine. we'll be right back. at 1:45, the aflac duck was brought in with multiple lacerations to the wing and a fractured beak. surgery was successful, but he will be in a cast until it is fully healed, possibly several months. so, if the duck isn't able to work, how will he pay for his living expenses? aflac. like his rent and car payments? aflac. what about gas and groceries? aflac. cell phone? aflac, but i doubt he'll be using his phone for quite a while cause like i said, he has a fractured beak. [ male announcer ] send the aflac duck a get-well card at getwellduck.com. a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem, a condition that puts him at greater risk for a
>>> up next, president obama holding his last press conference of his first term. he's going to start by talking about the debt limit. but first, the white house soup of the day. it's monday. it's rainy. i would suggest they could have come up with a better rainy day soup, but tomato basil is fine. we'll be right back. at 1:45, the aflac duck was brought in with multiple lacerations to the wing and a fractured beak. surgery was successful, but he will be in a cast until it is fully...
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people who make the argument have no idea what they're talking about. >> ironically president obama, a constitutional scholar and scalia are in the same place on this issue. yes, you have the right, but not without responsibilities. okay. dr. peterson -- >> yes. >> i don't know if it gets more bizarre than this. i feel like every day there's a new bizarre from rush limbaugh. he has taken a very strange twist in his defense of gun enthusiasts. he's now claiming that they are the martin luther kings in this civil rights fight. >> if a lot of african-americans back in the '60s had guns and the legal right to use them for self-defense, do you think they would have needed selma? if john lewis had had a gun, would he have been beat upside the head on the bridge? >> i have to tell you -- >> karen, listen, this is disgusting. first of all, it's not original -- >> rush is now -- it sounds like he's trying to be a member of the black panthers. this is ridiculous. >> well, there's that irony as well. but it's not original. he's taking it from the comments from the other right wing nut job who w
people who make the argument have no idea what they're talking about. >> ironically president obama, a constitutional scholar and scalia are in the same place on this issue. yes, you have the right, but not without responsibilities. okay. dr. peterson -- >> yes. >> i don't know if it gets more bizarre than this. i feel like every day there's a new bizarre from rush limbaugh. he has taken a very strange twist in his defense of gun enthusiasts. he's now claiming that they are...
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we talked about how the crowds weren't as big, without the excitement that was there in 2009, that was gone but did you find them excited? -- >> the excitement was replaced with something different, but a more solid pride that this is a historic achievement, the nation's first african-american president reelected with a majority of the popular vote. this was the sense that people wanted to be part of. african-americans returned to vote in the selection in higher numbers than 2008. it was an extraordinarily proud day and how awful it would of been if he had not been reelected. -- >> this is like a microcosm of the constituencies that came out in force. watching the president being sworn in on the big screen at the mall, and the tears coming down his face because this was a moment for him -- not just the election but the real action, he was reelected because he ran on his record, and you can be watching the whole day how well this is put together. this is as close to or royal coronation as americans come. did you see the red coats as part of the marching band -- when you have overthrown
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women voters who came out for barack obama talking about the needs of women, the perspective that women bring, and i think that raises the bar for him to show that he is going to put women in these top jobs. i think the white house has been taken aback by the response they've gotten. they feel like he has a pretty good record substantively, but the optics of these opening weeks have not been good for them on this issue. >> their own photo that they released, the white house photo. he was also asked by jackie about reports that he is too imsular and hasn't reached out. i topt play a little bit of that. >> most people who know me know i'm a pretty friendly guy. i like a good party. and, you know, the truth is that, you know, when i was in the senate, i had great relationships over there, and up until the point that i became president, this was not an accusation that you heard very frequently. >> chuck, let's talk about this because, i mean, you know the white house, this president, better than anyone. is this an unfair criticism that he is too surrounded by the very -- the guys mostly wit
women voters who came out for barack obama talking about the needs of women, the perspective that women bring, and i think that raises the bar for him to show that he is going to put women in these top jobs. i think the white house has been taken aback by the response they've gotten. they feel like he has a pretty good record substantively, but the optics of these opening weeks have not been good for them on this issue. >> their own photo that they released, the white house photo. he was...
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>>> president obama has gotten pushback for just about every cabinet member. concerns about hagel's nomination for defense secretary topped today's sunday talks. >> overall temperment and is he suited to run a department or big agency like the pentagon. >> whether he really believes that the surge was the worst blunderer since the vietnam war, that clearly is not -- that is not correct. in fact, it is bizarre. why would he oppose calling the iranian revolutionary guard a terrorist organization? >> peter alexander is at the white house where that nomination was announced. good afternoon to you. what is the president's strategy for dealing with these sorts of road blocks from republicans ahead of hagel's hearing? >> reporter: it is clear that the administration, the white house, specifically stands behind chuck hagel and is waiting for hearings to take place and they say it is only at that time that they will see exactly how chuck hagel will react to pushback. colin powell referred to hagel as having a diminished public record. he will be as secretary of defense
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he has now twice support president obama. he talks about a deep vein of intolerance within the party. how did that sit with you? >> well, general powell and i have been friends since he quit being a general and could be involved in politics. we don't see everything the same way but one thing very plain, republicans in this election did more poorly among hispanics, much more poorly among asian-americans and typically poorly among african-americans. we have to improve our standing among all of those the good thing is with the right kind of policies and the right kind of effort, we will do that. remember george bush, the last republican, got 44% of the public vote. not like there's some 1,000-year history here. >> you once said that colin powell is in the mainstream of the republican party. do you believe that today? >> i believe he is on the vast majority of the issues, i believe he see it is through his own prism. >> mayor booker what do you think about that comment, particularly intolerance directed toward this president? >>
he has now twice support president obama. he talks about a deep vein of intolerance within the party. how did that sit with you? >> well, general powell and i have been friends since he quit being a general and could be involved in politics. we don't see everything the same way but one thing very plain, republicans in this election did more poorly among hispanics, much more poorly among asian-americans and typically poorly among african-americans. we have to improve our standing among all...
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his poll numbers went up, and i imagine that the same thing would happen with obama. and, of course, there would be this attendant impact on the economy and attendant impact on people getting their government benefits and all sorts of things. so, again, i think the republican party talks about refashioning and rebranding and i think one of the ideas is to look at reagan. they always talk about reagan, but if you look at some of the things reagan actually did around immigration reform, for instance, this isn't a party that so far is will to do that and embrace some of those parts of reagan's legacy. >> steve, we heard colin powell saying this weekend that he doesn't understand why senior republicans continue to tolerate the kind of racial code words that actually proved self-injurious to their party. yet when they talk about the debt creating they're help to injure the nation so long as they get their own way. is this party destined for a reputation that has nothing to do with constructive help and more about damaging themselves and the country? >> i think there was so
his poll numbers went up, and i imagine that the same thing would happen with obama. and, of course, there would be this attendant impact on the economy and attendant impact on people getting their government benefits and all sorts of things. so, again, i think the republican party talks about refashioning and rebranding and i think one of the ideas is to look at reagan. they always talk about reagan, but if you look at some of the things reagan actually did around immigration reform, for...
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when president obama promises that no one's talking about taking away your hunting rifle or your self-defense handgun, it matters that gun control activists may, in fact, be talking about taking away your hunting rifle or your self-defense handgun, whether they know it or not. so let's forgo the arbitrary, ambiguous, fearmongering terms and get real specific about what we actually mean by gun control. it may be politically effective to rail against rapid fire, high capacity, assault weapons. doesn't actually mean anything. so if we're serious, we should at least start by getting the terms right. okay. that does it for "the cycle." martin, it's all yours. >> just a quick question. how many rounds did jared loughner fire off before he was tackled? >> what's your point? >> how many rounds had he fired off? >> i'm not sure. i don't remember. >> 31. >> okay. >> he was actually tackled because he was reloading. >> we should be trying to stop crazy people and criminals, martin, from shooting one person, not ten-plus one person which all is accomplished when you ban high capacity magazines. that's al
when president obama promises that no one's talking about taking away your hunting rifle or your self-defense handgun, it matters that gun control activists may, in fact, be talking about taking away your hunting rifle or your self-defense handgun, whether they know it or not. so let's forgo the arbitrary, ambiguous, fearmongering terms and get real specific about what we actually mean by gun control. it may be politically effective to rail against rapid fire, high capacity, assault weapons....
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president obama is targeting the rights of law-abiding citizens instead of what caused the violence. that is a very strong response from someone who's talked about as a 2016 potential candidate. >> and he also accused the president of abusing his executive power in the 23 actions. when you read the 23 actions, frankly, these are very weak directives. there's not much more the white house could do. they've got a whole bunch of things out there, but to call it an overreach is a big, big stretch there. but you're right, andrea, that's presidential politics. the most important responses, though, on this front have come from the two people in charge of putting legislation on the floor of the house and the senate. and speaker boehner's spokesperson said we'll be happy to look at any proposals that pass the senate. well, what did harry reid say last weekend about voting on any bills having to do with gun legislation? they are not going to vote on anything unless they know it can pass the house. here we are, stalemate. >> exactly. >> back to you, no, over to you. neither one of them -- and t
president obama is targeting the rights of law-abiding citizens instead of what caused the violence. that is a very strong response from someone who's talked about as a 2016 potential candidate. >> and he also accused the president of abusing his executive power in the 23 actions. when you read the 23 actions, frankly, these are very weak directives. there's not much more the white house could do. they've got a whole bunch of things out there, but to call it an overreach is a big, big...
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>> yes, we have and i think, i think they're going to wait to see what obama does, and i've talked with other of my colleagues, what's going on and there's a general consensus that if he steps over that line, that something has to be done. you cannot-- it's not like he's abraham lincoln, we're not at civil war. >> greta: the line i understand for executive orders on gun control, is that the line? >> no, the line is when you cross from administrative executive orders which deal with his office. >> greta: okay. >> and pass legislation during executive order. >> greta: suppose he says he's going to ban assault weapons with executive order. >> you can't do that, that's against the constitution, the constitution is very clear. >> greta: what would be your first step if he did that. >> i think we outlined multiple avenues. it's defending the constitution in any ways we can legally and that process has many different avenues. we're willing to take those to defend the constitution. i think it the right thing to do. >> greta: and we, do you have any idea how many republicans are with you. >> i k
>> yes, we have and i think, i think they're going to wait to see what obama does, and i've talked with other of my colleagues, what's going on and there's a general consensus that if he steps over that line, that something has to be done. you cannot-- it's not like he's abraham lincoln, we're not at civil war. >> greta: the line i understand for executive orders on gun control, is that the line? >> no, the line is when you cross from administrative executive orders which deal...
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president obama is not going to propose one on time. he will wait until after the state of the union. miss the deadline. first, when harry reid says i am not going to the gyrations of the past, i'm going to, going to pass through the senate what we think we can get through the house. >> bob: if this is a monarchy he can do it by himself. but the point is -- >> not his first two years, though. >> bob: what is interesting he made a comment, exactly right. leaving aside the politic comment in 2007 running for president -- >> eric: whoa, whoa, whoa. he voted against raising debt ceiling. >> bob: did you interrupt me? >> sorry. >> he voted against raising the debt ceiling, you are right. but the point is that this money is money that congress passed and appropriated. the congress has to vote on the money. they vote on it. pay your bill. >> if you can't vote on a budget, how can you do that? >> bob: every dime was passed by the congress. >> andrea: first, democratically controlled. >> bob: for two years. >> andrea: he can't say i have no resp
president obama is not going to propose one on time. he will wait until after the state of the union. miss the deadline. first, when harry reid says i am not going to the gyrations of the past, i'm going to, going to pass through the senate what we think we can get through the house. >> bob: if this is a monarchy he can do it by himself. but the point is -- >> not his first two years, though. >> bob: what is interesting he made a comment, exactly right. leaving aside the...
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president obama spent the better part of the hour talking about the debt ceiling. so we'll go into the details about what it is, exactly. it is a cap on the amount of money the federal government may borrow. the cap is actually set by congress. so it includes money the federal government borrows from the public. for example, u.s. bonds, right? also includes debt that the treasury owes the government, trust funds like social security and medicare. right now, the ceiling, is it set at almost $16.4 trillion. the country's borrowing already hit that mark. that happened on december 31st. so the ceiling is raised periodically because both parties, they have to have approved the tax cuts and the spending increases over the years, knowing that they're going to add to the deficits. by doing so, they increase the country's need to borrow in the future. since 1962, congress has raised the debt limit 76 times, 11 times in the past decade. i want to talk about the debate over the debt ceiling, how it affects the overall economy. our georgia tech economics professor, danny bosto
president obama spent the better part of the hour talking about the debt ceiling. so we'll go into the details about what it is, exactly. it is a cap on the amount of money the federal government may borrow. the cap is actually set by congress. so it includes money the federal government borrows from the public. for example, u.s. bonds, right? also includes debt that the treasury owes the government, trust funds like social security and medicare. right now, the ceiling, is it set at almost...
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. >>> in today's strategy talk cabinet conflict. in an interview today senator bob corker raised new questions about chuck hagel, president obama's nominee for secretary of defense. >> i think another thing, george, that's going to come up is just his overall temperament and is he suited to run a department or a big agency or a big entity like the pentagon. >> joining me now, former republican congressman tom davis and jonathan alter, msnbc political analyst and a bloomberg view columnist. welcome to you both. >> hey, alex. >> representative davis, i'll begin with you, sir. we just heard senator corker saying he has questions about chuck hagel's temperament and his ability to run the pentagon. now, i know you served on the hill about the same time with him. have you ever heard anything about that? >> well, look, i think beer going to be in a nomination fight at this point. the real question is is he going to be able to come up with five republicans to -- do they want to filibuster it? i think right now we're sitting in some uncharte
. >>> in today's strategy talk cabinet conflict. in an interview today senator bob corker raised new questions about chuck hagel, president obama's nominee for secretary of defense. >> i think another thing, george, that's going to come up is just his overall temperament and is he suited to run a department or a big agency or a big entity like the pentagon. >> joining me now, former republican congressman tom davis and jonathan alter, msnbc political analyst and a bloomberg...
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let's talk first about barack obama. what did you see in him the second time. i was not surprised by the first, but i was surprised by the second. you have been critical saying he needed to narrow his focus. what did you see in him the second time. >> nothing wrong with being critical and also supporting. what i saw in the second opportunity to be president of the united states is we had seen progress in the four years he had been president. the financial system was stabilized and the economy is picking up again. we are out of iraq and coming out of afghanistan. he handled terrorism quite well. i saw a guy getting the job done and deserving of a second term. the first term doesn't have the historic significance but there is a warm feeling about bringing a black man into the white house. he has done the job. has he done everything correctly or perfectly? no. i talk to him on a regular basis and we have a condit conversation. why did the republicans lose? as i tried to indicate it's not those of us who are being critical of them but for them to say why are we los
let's talk first about barack obama. what did you see in him the second time. i was not surprised by the first, but i was surprised by the second. you have been critical saying he needed to narrow his focus. what did you see in him the second time. >> nothing wrong with being critical and also supporting. what i saw in the second opportunity to be president of the united states is we had seen progress in the four years he had been president. the financial system was stabilized and the...
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extremist politicians talking about impeaching barack obama. you have guys that have worked for supreme court justices that say even talking about this is unconstitution unconstitutional. no, it's not. scalia said you have a right to protect your family and have a handgun in your house. the other things, that's subject to government regulation. they overreached. the mothre they overreached, i warned them, i have been a member all my life -- >> that's nice. >> i will do it again. >> willie, what's my biggest fault. >> you love a little too much. >> that is it. >> i love a little too much. i shared some of that love last week. anyw anyway, it is a still not too late. they can come to the table and be part of a comprehensive package. i'm sure joe biden will accept them and joe manchin will accept them and conservatives will accept them to come to the table. i'm sure their membership wants them to do it, not the survivalists or gun manufacturers who have made millions of dollars off the death of 6 and 7 year-olds, the truth. it's not too late. if t
extremist politicians talking about impeaching barack obama. you have guys that have worked for supreme court justices that say even talking about this is unconstitution unconstitutional. no, it's not. scalia said you have a right to protect your family and have a handgun in your house. the other things, that's subject to government regulation. they overreached. the mothre they overreached, i warned them, i have been a member all my life -- >> that's nice. >> i will do it again....
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(laughter) kelly, you know what i'm talking about. coming up, the high profile launching a blistering attack against his own party. why colin powell says the party has a dark vein against minorities, in particular president obama. plus hundreds of families signing up to join a community where their freedoms and liberties will be fiercely protected. we have a closer look at the story behind this. and new questions about religious rights in the classroom, why one christian teacher was forced to remove certain items from her room, including a quote from former president ronald reagan. now she's suing. >> determined that the items weren't appropriate and that the items needed to be removed. are you flo? yes. is this the thing you gave my husband? well, yeah, yes. the "name your price" tool. you tell us the price you want to pay, and we give you a range of options to choose from. careful, though -- that kind of power can go to your head. that explains a lot. yo, buddy! i got this. gimme one, gimme one, gimme one! the power of the "name you
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obama's economic policies. on this one he laid them out. let's have a talk about it. if we can come up with something better fine. anyway thank you ben, thank you la smp lars, thank you nan. >> the faa just announced grounding the 787 boeing dreamliner until further notice. how crushing is this for boeing. the big airlines themselves, phil lebeau has a live report for us in just a moment and later in the show the debt battle seems to be tearing conservatives apart. once between i say do not play chicken with the debt ceiling and risk a default. by free market coke brothers agree. a new team of conservatives seems to be ignoring that advice and i think they are wrong but we'll debate it and don't forget, folks, free market capitalism is still the best path to prosperity. this is still the greatest country in the world. let us figure out our problems and we'll continue to greatness. i'm kudlow. we'll be right back. officeyour business needs...k... at prices that keep you...out of the red. this week get a bonus $15 itunes gift card with any qualifying $75 ink purchase. f
obama's economic policies. on this one he laid them out. let's have a talk about it. if we can come up with something better fine. anyway thank you ben, thank you la smp lars, thank you nan. >> the faa just announced grounding the 787 boeing dreamliner until further notice. how crushing is this for boeing. the big airlines themselves, phil lebeau has a live report for us in just a moment and later in the show the debt battle seems to be tearing conservatives apart. once between i say do...
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because john boehner didn't have a relationship with barack obama. when barack obama got on "meet the press" sunday morning and said yeah, we'll make adjustments to how we pay out social security. and then harry reid in the afternoon said no, we're not going to, if john boehner had a relationship like tip o'neill had a relationship with ronald reagan, they'd pick up the phone and say listen, here's the deal. i'll bring you the votes you need, but listen, you're going to have to tell harry reid to back off. okay, mr. president? we're not going to show you up. you said it this morning on "meet the press." we need that. give me that, and we'll get a vote on the floor and we'll pass this thing. but instead, there was no relationship. so they talked past each other. it was shortsighted and ended up costing taxpayers a lot of money over the next 10, 20 years. >> mika, those were forced meetings just behind the very top of the leadership ladder. what we're talking about is bringing together the constituent members on a monthly basis so they can have dialogu
because john boehner didn't have a relationship with barack obama. when barack obama got on "meet the press" sunday morning and said yeah, we'll make adjustments to how we pay out social security. and then harry reid in the afternoon said no, we're not going to, if john boehner had a relationship like tip o'neill had a relationship with ronald reagan, they'd pick up the phone and say listen, here's the deal. i'll bring you the votes you need, but listen, you're going to have to tell...
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so let me ask you what's going on in washington with ought growing talks. let me play what president obama said about that. >> markets could go haywire, interest rates would spike for anybody who borrows money. every homeowner with a mortgage, every student with a college loan, every small business owner who wants to grow and hire. >> if we default, what would be the impact on your industry and the u.s. economy as a whole. >> well, i think it would be clearly a very significant impact. the important thing i think about this discussion is when we're looking at it in a more holistic fashion, what are we going to do to reduce the budget deficits and also deal with the trade deficits, but even more importantly, what do we do to create an environment where businesses can grow and we can expand economic development? because this is still a very, very fragile expansion, though it is a expansion from probably the deepest recession we've ever been in wince the depression. a lot of pent-up demand, so i think this debate is centered on the right thing, what do we do t
so let me ask you what's going on in washington with ought growing talks. let me play what president obama said about that. >> markets could go haywire, interest rates would spike for anybody who borrows money. every homeowner with a mortgage, every student with a college loan, every small business owner who wants to grow and hire. >> if we default, what would be the impact on your industry and the u.s. economy as a whole. >> well, i think it would be clearly a very...
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i wonder if you can talk about biden's role in the administration. what it says that he was tapped for the role about his status in administration. this was a moment when we say wow, this has been one of the more consequential vice presidents? >> biden has been influential in a way that was not appreciated. chuck hagel seems to be on his way to being secretary of defense. they are very close and i don't know that obama had a deep relationship with him, but there other ways in which his fingerprints are on the president's policies and afghanistan won the argument. two things here i would add on guns specifically. biden in a way is -- a messenger for obama and sectors that may not trust him. he's got working class roots from industrial pennsylvania. he's catholic. i guess that the white house sees him as a messenger to people who might be skeptical and have ideas of what obama's agenda is and that biden could be a better messenger on this. i hate to bring up the 2016 number, but i think you may see more opportunities for biden to step out and prove him
i wonder if you can talk about biden's role in the administration. what it says that he was tapped for the role about his status in administration. this was a moment when we say wow, this has been one of the more consequential vice presidents? >> biden has been influential in a way that was not appreciated. chuck hagel seems to be on his way to being secretary of defense. they are very close and i don't know that obama had a deep relationship with him, but there other ways in which his...
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and when i hear these guys talking about the obama girls being somehow food for discussion here, let's talk about their safety as some joke line. but then, talking about this guy saying the president reminds him of sadhamhusein. and we were oh, my god, that kid is skacared to death of this gu. he's comparing what obama did today to that. that takes a sick kind of connection to do that. >> he basically accused janet reno and bill clinton of murdering people merely to further his assault gun ban. >> explain how that would work? here's the question. wait a minute. how do you organize -- >> you don't want to follow. >> how do you organize branch davidion? to come up with the idea he justified the raids because he wanted to come out against gun control. >> he said the president wanted them dead because they liked their guns. you can't go down that path. >> the people who believe that you lost them. you lost them there. >> what about militia members after those two guys were executed? one of them was. the other in jail for life. but the bureaucrats are dead because the people, just workers f
and when i hear these guys talking about the obama girls being somehow food for discussion here, let's talk about their safety as some joke line. but then, talking about this guy saying the president reminds him of sadhamhusein. and we were oh, my god, that kid is skacared to death of this gu. he's comparing what obama did today to that. that takes a sick kind of connection to do that. >> he basically accused janet reno and bill clinton of murdering people merely to further his assault...
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ant and some lawmakers referred to him as king obama and tyranny, is that fringe or is that a larger portion of the nra's supporters and not just its leadership? >> well, i think it's a little of both. they have a longer ad which is about four minutes and as they sort of lay out the double down on this idea of the president's kids, mentioned david gregory's kids, as well. they have a ticker showing the nra membership going up because of the fight. the nra in this ad, it isn't about truth but propaganda. it is about ginny up support of gun lobby, for buying guns. it's about ginnying up a membership and donors to that organization. and they do that very well. i mean, i think historically, when's happened to the nra is the court controversy and in that way they become more powerful because they're able to swell their membership. >> so in fairness, chris, i won't ask you relating to republicans but to some democrats, joe manchin's comments regarding the president said i'm disappointed the president did not recommend the creation of a national commission on mass violence as i proposed. ma
ant and some lawmakers referred to him as king obama and tyranny, is that fringe or is that a larger portion of the nra's supporters and not just its leadership? >> well, i think it's a little of both. they have a longer ad which is about four minutes and as they sort of lay out the double down on this idea of the president's kids, mentioned david gregory's kids, as well. they have a ticker showing the nra membership going up because of the fight. the nra in this ad, it isn't about truth...
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hagel talks expansively. he's a little like biden. to his credit, and i think it's something obama likes about him, he's not a totally programmed -- >> biden had a lot to do with pushing this, didn't he? >> i think that's a key thing to understand. those two guys are really close. as far as the speed of it, i think they drew a lesson from what happened to susan rice. she hung out there twisting on the vine. they didn't marshall the forces. she didn't have a lot of public defenders. this is the opposite of that. this is an organized, quick campaign. they want to batten down the hatches and basically make him safe for people to vote for and move forward with it and get the controversy behind them. >> let's talk about another big event that happened this week, another shoe that dropped, general powell this sunday. let's look at general powell on our own "meet the press" and the way he went at this very directly. he was very pointed here in the middle of what we're going to show you, very pointed for a politician to talk with this kind of
hagel talks expansively. he's a little like biden. to his credit, and i think it's something obama likes about him, he's not a totally programmed -- >> biden had a lot to do with pushing this, didn't he? >> i think that's a key thing to understand. those two guys are really close. as far as the speed of it, i think they drew a lesson from what happened to susan rice. she hung out there twisting on the vine. they didn't marshall the forces. she didn't have a lot of public defenders....
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i just want to put up what our first read has put out today, talking about president obama's announcement, saying bottom line, obama is going to go as big as he can go, realizing there's little political downside, at least in the short term. chris, your reaction to that? is there really no downside to going straight for this as strongly as he can, fresh out of the gate and off the heels of the gun task force of the vice president's suggestions? >> well, obviously it's going to depend on what the president proposes but i think you've seen from the polls and i think you've seen the reaction from the country that something needs to be done. this is not something that's going to be solved with one simple measure. i think the president and his team have decided that a more comprehensive, bold approach is the smart thing to do. part that's disappointing to me is in this entire debate that kind of erupted obviously after the newtown shootings, is you've not heard anything from the republicans in terms of what they would be willing to even consider. would they consider magazines, would they consi
i just want to put up what our first read has put out today, talking about president obama's announcement, saying bottom line, obama is going to go as big as he can go, realizing there's little political downside, at least in the short term. chris, your reaction to that? is there really no downside to going straight for this as strongly as he can, fresh out of the gate and off the heels of the gun task force of the vice president's suggestions? >> well, obviously it's going to depend on...
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>>gretchen: let's talk about politics because there is no trash talking in politics. we all know that; right? back in september of 2006, i think it was, president obama -- and 2008, by the way -- when he was a senator, he talked a lot about the debt ceiling. remember, president bush was in office at the time, so senator obama would probably be against some of the things he was talking about, particularly the debt ceiling. the senator called it irresponsible to increase the debt. listen to then-senator obama. >> the problem is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents. number 43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome so we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back, $30,000 for every man, woman and child. that's irresponsible. it's unpatriotic. >>steve: there you've got the president, back then senator, back in the day saying that president of ours, he's running up the bills, and
>>gretchen: let's talk about politics because there is no trash talking in politics. we all know that; right? back in september of 2006, i think it was, president obama -- and 2008, by the way -- when he was a senator, he talked a lot about the debt ceiling. remember, president bush was in office at the time, so senator obama would probably be against some of the things he was talking about, particularly the debt ceiling. the senator called it irresponsible to increase the debt. listen to...
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. >> powell is most likely talking about former alaska governor sarah palin who blasted president obama for his handling of the benghazi consulate attack on facebook writing in part, "why the lies? why the cover up? why the dissembling about the cause of the murder of our ambassador? on the anniversary of the worst terror attacks on american soil. we deserve answers to this. president obama's shuck and jive shtick with these benghazi lies must end." joining me now cnn contributor and senior writer for cnn.com, gra l.z. granderson. and will cain. palin defended the remarks saying there was nothing racist about them. was there? >> i'm going to go with no, carol. you know this is always my favorite segment. why are republicans racist? are you racist? tell me again what is not racist about conservatism? it's always the burden of proof to prove you're not a racist, which is a near impossible thing to do. i understand you're not asking me about my personal views. you're asking about a party. i don't know, whatever that is, tens of millions of people across this country. are they embodied by a
. >> powell is most likely talking about former alaska governor sarah palin who blasted president obama for his handling of the benghazi consulate attack on facebook writing in part, "why the lies? why the cover up? why the dissembling about the cause of the murder of our ambassador? on the anniversary of the worst terror attacks on american soil. we deserve answers to this. president obama's shuck and jive shtick with these benghazi lies must end." joining me now cnn...
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that dominated the sunday talk shows. before we get into it, the one who made the most headlines on this, not john mccain. the idea that every sunday talk show feels that they have to book john mccain every sunday is -- i am so sick of it. common. you know he will say something crazy but he is crazy. why keep booking him. >> for sure. >> so didn't make any news yesterday. the one who did was colin powell. first of all, who former secretary of state, former chairman of the joint chiefs who said that -- he came out very, very strongly in defense of senator haggel. >> people say that doesn't necessarily make him a good candidate for secretary of defense. i will tell you who thinks that makes him a good candidate for secretary of defense, the men and women in the armed forces of the united states and their parents. >> meaning, of course he will be the first enlisted man to serve as secretary of defense. and one of the few wounded in wartime and in combat to the serve as secretary of defense. then where colin powell really mad
that dominated the sunday talk shows. before we get into it, the one who made the most headlines on this, not john mccain. the idea that every sunday talk show feels that they have to book john mccain every sunday is -- i am so sick of it. common. you know he will say something crazy but he is crazy. why keep booking him. >> for sure. >> so didn't make any news yesterday. the one who did was colin powell. first of all, who former secretary of state, former chairman of the joint...
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she joins me now via telephone to talk about the inauguration. miss angelou, good afternoon to you. >> good afternoon. how are you? >> i'm fantastic. it is so much of an honor to have you on. you, of course, worked alongside reverend martin luther king, jr., back in the '60s in the southern christian leadership conference. in fact, i know dr. king died on your birthday in april. how does it feel to see the first african-american president inaugurated for the second time on martin luther king, jr., day? >> i tell you, it's so exciting it's hardly livable, that is to say young people, people after my generation can take it with more e kwaun imity, more easily, but for me having been raised in the really, the awful south, it is amazing to think that a black man, not only has been president once, but has been elected a second time. this is really rare in our history. there are only a few people that have been -- who have been celebrated and elected twice and that a black man is -- i mean, mr. melvin, it's hard for me to even describe the feeling. i'm
she joins me now via telephone to talk about the inauguration. miss angelou, good afternoon to you. >> good afternoon. how are you? >> i'm fantastic. it is so much of an honor to have you on. you, of course, worked alongside reverend martin luther king, jr., back in the '60s in the southern christian leadership conference. in fact, i know dr. king died on your birthday in april. how does it feel to see the first african-american president inaugurated for the second time on martin...
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>> stephanie: he's talking about the obama administration using executive order to bypass congress so they can't get gun control measures done. >> i'm against having a king. i think having a monarch is what we fought the american revolution over. that's someone who wants to act like a king or a monarch. i've been opposed to executive orders even with republican president but one that wants to infringe on the second amendment, we'll fight tooth and nail and i promise you there will be no rock left unturned as far as trying to stop him from usurping the constitution. >> know what i mean, wink, wink, nudge, nudge dog whistle. here lassie. >> apparently -- >> stephanie: yes. does he not -- the white house knows which stuff is obviously that you can do by executive order and which stuff you can't. they keep putting this information out there. none of the stuff we're talking about has to do with taking your stupid guns. it has to do with, you know, gathering information and that kind of stuff. okay. what are you doing? what are you doing over there? let's go to my ron in minnesota. you're o
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hey, joe. >> hey, brooke. >>> happening now, president obama decides to go big on gun reform acting on his own and asking congress for reform that will be hard to pass. we'll hear part of oprah winfrey's reaction to lance armstrong's confession. plus, an exclusive look inside a lab that could save your life. see how close we are to a super vaccine to keep you from getting the flu for years. wolf blitzer's off today. i'm joe johns. you're in "the situation room." we begin now with a guessing game about what is in president obama's so called comprehensive proposals to cut down on gun violence. the president and vice president are set to unveil their plans tomorrow and even though officials are trying to keep the deal under wraps, we already know what is in the plan. jessica yellin has been working her sources and joins us live now. what do you know? >> joe, today vice president biden delivered his plan to the president just a month after the newtown shootings and among the top recommendations that the president will unveil tomorrow we're told are enhanced background checks for gun sales
hey, joe. >> hey, brooke. >>> happening now, president obama decides to go big on gun reform acting on his own and asking congress for reform that will be hard to pass. we'll hear part of oprah winfrey's reaction to lance armstrong's confession. plus, an exclusive look inside a lab that could save your life. see how close we are to a super vaccine to keep you from getting the flu for years. wolf blitzer's off today. i'm joe johns. you're in "the situation room." we...